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[?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
@me@doasu.dev

   NepoRC 2.13.7 is starting up enbyOS
* Mounting gender filesystem ...
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/null, missing codepage or helper program
* Setting pronouns to they/them ...
* Setting timezone to UTC+2 ...
Starting about-me runlevel
* Greeting user ...
Welcome to my page! (doasu.dev)

snac login: me
Password:
Last login: this week (localhost)
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[?]Yukari Hafner :v_lesbian: [she/her] » 🌐
@shinmera@mastodon.tymoon.eu

This isn't a new thought at all, but it really just sucks so fucking much how depression and lack of self esteem is self-reinforcing

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[?]James Endres Howell » 🌐
@jameshowell@fediscience.org

It's not about the product, it's about learning.

I just marginally improved one of my trivial little packages (that helps me a lot!).

I finally (finally) wrapped my head around the concept (and the syntax) of Lisp macros in . Finally.

codeberg.org/jamesendreshowell

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    [?]Jonas Bernoulli » 🌐
    @tarsius@fosstodon.org

    @jameshowell I still remember writing my first macro. It was very simple. Took me a day.

    The breakthrough was when I took an existing macro, which did something unrelated, and made it also do the thing I wanted my macro to do. Then I made it stop doing the other thing.

    Nowadays a LLM would get you there quicker, but I like to think I learned something that day.

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      [?]James Endres Howell » 🌐
      @jameshowell@fediscience.org

      @tarsius Speaking as an educator, the loss of learning from mistakes is literally the worst thing about LLMs. This is the apocalyptic satanic evil. The thing we will regret bitterly.

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        [?]Maciej Barć » 🌐
        @xgqt@functional.cafe

        AI, micro rant, also java mentioned [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

        @jameshowell @tarsius

        I think it can be all faulted on the fact that we eliminated interactive programming and instead oriented ourselves on LSPs and making bad programming languages like Java & C# better in editors

        all the Common-Lisp people should be shouting "I told you so"

        because indeed, for a non-interactive batch processing language like Java it is a million times easier to slop out garbage than to jump into a REPL and live-code

        mistakes in CL:
        > oh, dear did you forget to define the function, do you maybe want to define it now? but if you want to continue or do something different go ahead
        mistakes in "modern languages":
        > 1M lines of stack trace
        > null pointer exception

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          [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
          @me@doasu.dev

          I love that 'java mentioned,' alone, is enough for a content warning...

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            [?]Maciej Barć » 🌐
            @xgqt@functional.cafe

            @me

            it is for me :P (besides it being quite funny to add this CW)

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              [?]RTG-powered Vel [she/her, она/её] » 🌐
              @risc@wetdry.world

              Liquid Glass for libadwaita

              [?]Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: » 🌐
              @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              Benchmarking and migrating from [1] to [2] storage. Impressive!

              datakhi.fr/en/blog/garage-migr

              [1] github.com/minio/minio
              [2] garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/

              @homelab

              Results — 3-node cluster
Workload MinlO (p50) Garage (p50) Garage gain
Small file read (Q1) 904 ms 148 ms 6.1x
Heavy client /1 month read (Q4) 1,620 ms 760 ms 2.1x
2-year read / 730 files (Q5) 33,463 ms 21,388 ms 1.6x
Glob 43,860 files (Q10) 21137 ms 4,577 ms 4.6x
20-row write (W1) 750 ms 101 ms 7.4x
10 concurrent workers write (W3) 1,887 ms 201 ms 9.4x

- Reads: Garage 1.6x to 6.1x faster
- Writes: Garage 3x to 9.4x faster
- Listing: Garage 4.6x faster
- Observed container CPU: MinlO 82-124% on average, Garage 13-25% — a factor of 5 to 6 in Garage's favor

              Alt...Results — 3-node cluster Workload MinlO (p50) Garage (p50) Garage gain Small file read (Q1) 904 ms 148 ms 6.1x Heavy client /1 month read (Q4) 1,620 ms 760 ms 2.1x 2-year read / 730 files (Q5) 33,463 ms 21,388 ms 1.6x Glob 43,860 files (Q10) 21137 ms 4,577 ms 4.6x 20-row write (W1) 750 ms 101 ms 7.4x 10 concurrent workers write (W3) 1,887 ms 201 ms 9.4x - Reads: Garage 1.6x to 6.1x faster - Writes: Garage 3x to 9.4x faster - Listing: Garage 4.6x faster - Observed container CPU: MinlO 82-124% on average, Garage 13-25% — a factor of 5 to 6 in Garage's favor

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                [?]Thoralf Will » 🌐
                @thoralf@gruene.social

                @jwildeboer @homelab So, does that mean it could make sense to try this on my homelab with only 1Gbit connection between the nodes?
                Ceph did not fly (to be expected). But those numbers almost make me believe that Garage could be light weight enough for this to work …

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                  [?]Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: » 🌐
                  @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  @thoralf It's running perfectly fine in my homelab with 3 Lenovo tiny PCs with 1 Gbit network. In part 3 of my short series on using Garage in my homelab I do some benchmarks too: jan.wildeboer.net/2026/01/3-Us @homelab

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                    [?]Thoralf Will » 🌐
                    @thoralf@gruene.social

                    @jwildeboer @homelab Sweet!
                    I really love to read that. Will give it a try. Thanks!

                      [?]Tungsten_carbide 🍉 [They/them] » 🌐
                      @Equity7804@hostux.social

                      @thoralf @homelab
                      Maybe @jwildeboer you mentioned this in your other content you linked, I haven't checked, but I think it's good to read this other page from garage's documentation about its "Goals and non-goals", especially as they explicitly state that "extreme performance" is *not* one of its goals, setting the right expectations, if the performance aspect drew your attention.

                      garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/documen

                      Anyway, I heard a lot of good things about garage too, so enjoy experimenting!

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                        [?]Thoralf Will » 🌐
                        @thoralf@gruene.social

                        @Equity7804 @homelab @jwildeboer Fair point!
                        Extreme performance is nothing I do expect.
                        Decent performance would be more than sufficient.

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                          [?]Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: » 🌐
                          @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          @thoralf Garage happily saturates the 1 gbit connection in my homelab, so what more can I ask for? ;) @Equity7804 @homelab

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                            [?]halfa » 🌐
                            @halfa@mastodon.tedomum.net

                            @jwildeboer @thoralf @Equity7804 @homelab extreme performance here is people plugging datacenter-grade hardware with NVMe drives on a 100Gbps switch and wondering why they only get 10Gbps. Anything around 1Gbpd (and below 10Gbps) should not perform too badly. Above that is the realm of TLB misses, core pinning and optimisations, and we don't have either the ressources, the hardware, or a use case for it at deuxfleurs, especially since other solution exists.

                              [?]Phil Ashby :marmite: 🍵 » 🔓
                              @phlash@mastodon.me.uk

                              @jwildeboer @homelab
                              Ooh, this might be a good alternative to our current rsync / syncthing arrangements (over tinc) @Slash909uk ?

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                                [?]Slash909uk » 🔓
                                @Slash909uk@mastodon.me.uk

                                @phlash @jwildeboer @homelab min network speeds of 50Mbps could be a problem? This is why we rejected all storage cluster software so far... none of them cope with ADSL speed networks and downtime. Except Syncthing.

                                Interesting option to try, however 😁

                                  Pink boosted

                                  [?]tsia 🔜 GPN24 [he/him - https://de.pronouns.page/@tsia] » 🌐
                                  @tsia_@chaos.social

                                  Who does something like that‽

                                  Image displaying network configuration details, including a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0 and a router IP address of 10.128.128.128.

                                  Alt...Image displaying network configuration details, including a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0 and a router IP address of 10.128.128.128.

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                                  [?]Pink [he/him] » 🌐
                                  @can@haz.pink

                                  @tsia_ if I have the entire 10.0.0.0/8 subnet available, I'm going to use the ENTIRE subnet! 😤

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                                    [?]tsia 🔜 GPN24 [he/him - https://de.pronouns.page/@tsia] » 🔓
                                    @tsia_@chaos.social

                                    @can put the fucking gateway at the and and not smack in the middle

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                                      [?]Pink [he/him] » 🔓
                                      @can@haz.pink

                                      @tsia_ no. And I'm going to use http://176193664 to access the management interface.

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                                        [?]tsia 🔜 GPN24 [he/him - https://de.pronouns.page/@tsia] » 🔓
                                        @tsia_@chaos.social

                                        @can I should start sharing links like this at work

                                          [?]Pink [he/him] » 🌐
                                          @can@haz.pink

                                          @tsia_ the more I think about it the more I want to change my home network to a similar lawful evil design. It's really growing on me. Maybe use 198.18.0.0/15 as the subnet, 198.18.255.255 as the router and 198.19.123.0 - 198.19.255.7 for DHCP. And then sprinkle in some 198.18.x.x for static servers :3

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                                            [?]tsia 🔜 GPN24 [he/him - https://de.pronouns.page/@tsia] » 🔓
                                            @tsia_@chaos.social

                                            @can I understand you going for /15 for its chaotic nature but what about 169.254.0.0/16? And a dhcp server that doesn’t give out addresses sequentially. Wouldn’t debugging be fun if your machine has 169.254.133.17 or something.

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                                              [?]Pink [he/him] » 🔓
                                              @can@haz.pink

                                              @tsia_ I don’t know if link local is too illegal for the given moral framework. Plus, /16 is too even. But I like the non-sequential DHCP. We should also split up router, DHCP and DNS IPs.

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                                                [?]tsia 🔜 GPN24 [he/him - https://de.pronouns.page/@tsia] » 🔓
                                                @tsia_@chaos.social

                                                @can I mean you could still use /15 or something just for fun

                                                  [?]Ivy » 🌐
                                                  @ivy@sk.girlthi.ng

                                                  first injection done ​:neodog_aww:

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                                                    [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                    @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                    Addenum to my @LAS talk!

                                                    I don't think people realized that next basically fixes everything. Browsers will use their own sandboxes, steam, password managers, etc.

                                                    And a new VPN portal. All of the razorburn goes away.

                                                    All we need to do is gather a bunch of nerds.

                                                    I would like too amend my statement: "The gamer kids and the rust kids will save Linux, and the ops people will help them succeed."

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                                                      [?]2something [She/They] » 🌐
                                                      @2something@transfem.social

                                                      @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

                                                      I see the slides in the talk make repeated mention of creating systemd services. What does this mean for distros that use flatpak but don't have systemd?

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                                                        [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                        @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                        @2something @LAS I don't know, ask them?

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                                                          [?]2something [She/They] » 🌐
                                                          @2something@transfem.social

                                                          @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social

                                                          I'm asking for clarification: Will Flatpak Next/Flatpak 2 depend on systemd?

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                                                            [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                            @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                            @2something @LAS Are you serious? Of course.

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                                                              [?]flammableengineering » 🌐
                                                              @flammableengineering@app.wafrn.net

                                                              @jorge@hachyderm.io @LAS@floss.social @2something@transfem.social

                                                              I would really rather it not, especially since systemd seems to endorse merging AI slop.

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                                                                [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                                @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                @flammableengineering @LAS @2something This is modern linux, there's only systemd.

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                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                  @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                  @jorge @flammableengineering @LAS @2something

                                                                  as the current openrc maintainer and developer, i guess i don't exist? nor does alpine, gentoo, guix, slackware, void, debian (yes debian supports non-systemd installs), and others?

                                                                    [?]ZanaGB [She/Her;They/Them] » 🤖 🌐
                                                                    @ZanaGB@lgbtqia.space

                                                                    @jorge @flammableengineering @LAS @2something

                                                                    My dude. There are bad takes out there but that is an ***extraordinarily bad*** take.

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                                                                      [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                                      @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                      @ZanaGB @flammableengineering @LAS @2something Do you have a chart that says how many linux desktop users are not using systemd?

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                                                                        [?]sarah tonin :wlfBlep: [they/she/any] » 🌐
                                                                        @SRAZKVT@tech.lgbt

                                                                        @jorge @ZanaGB @flammableengineering @LAS @2something i'll be honest, idk why you need those numbers at all. there are users with that setup, and there are ethical issues with the development process of systemd, those two together should be enough to at LEAST make systemd a recommended dependency rather than a required one

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                                                                          [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                                          @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                          @SRAZKVT @ZanaGB @flammableengineering @LAS @2something I'd have to see the numbers. This is open source. Metrics. Show me.

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                                                                            [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                            @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                            @jorge @SRAZKVT @ZanaGB @flammableengineering @LAS @2something

                                                                            for the record, the burden of proof falls under the person making the claim -- you're the one with the initial claim that 95% of desktop users run systemd (and thus there's no reason to care for anything else, which is a flawed reasoning from the start)

                                                                            where's the metrics showing that 95% of desktop linux run systemd?

                                                                            (metrics impossible to accurately obtain as linux does not ship a global data collection process, only a subset of users would ever consider opting into one, and the users that avoid systemd are the same users that would avoid such data collection)

                                                                              [?]hayase yuuka » 🌐
                                                                              @yuuka@fe.brokenhalos.online

                                                                              @jorge oh huge shocker that yall want to depend on systemd after they started adding age verification plumbing and APIs. Just say you hate privacy and autonomy and get out of FOSS development thanks.

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                                                                                [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                                                @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                @yuuka Of course it'll use systemd what else would it use?

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                                                                                  [?]hayase yuuka » 🌐
                                                                                  @yuuka@fe.brokenhalos.online

                                                                                  @jorge have you considered keeping it init agnostic instead of helping governments who wanna collect excessive data by tying the superior distribution agnostic package system to systemd? What happened to being distro agnostic?

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                                                                                    [?]Jorge Castro » 🌐
                                                                                    @jorge@hachyderm.io

                                                                                    @yuuka What are you talking about. We're targetting the 95% everyone is using systemd.

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                                                                                      [?]nicole mikołajczyk ☎️ 7312 @ gpn 🔜 cebulacamp [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                      @mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl

                                                                                      @jorge @yuuka what about the 95% that don’t use linux on desktop?

                                                                                        [?]kimapr ☭ » 🌐
                                                                                        @kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

                                                                                        @jorge @2something @LAS As a GNU Guix System user Flatpak has allowed me to access a wider collection of software that is not packaged in the distro that would’ve been difficult to get running otherwise as Guix is very different and pre-built binaries not specifically made for Guix typically don’t work here, while Flatpak provides the same environment as anywhere else. If Flatpak will soon hard-depend on systemd in order to work, however, Flatpak would not work on GNU Guix any more as Guix uses GNU Shepherd rather than systemd (this will never change). Which means that for me as well as any other Flatpak user in a similar situation the Linux Desktop experience will get worse, not better, as a result of this change…

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                                                                                          [?]Valerie » 🌐
                                                                                          @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io

                                                                                          @kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something The solution here is to use a normal operating system.

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                                                                                            [?]🏳️‍🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️‍🌈 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                            @luana@wetdry.world

                                                                                            @valerie_tar_gz @jorge @kimapr @LAS @2something Guess what, if everyone uses the same “normal operating system” Flatpak isn’t necessary at all and might as well just die

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                                                                                              [?]Valerie » 🌐
                                                                                              @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io

                                                                                              @luana @jorge @kimapr @LAS @2something If flatpak not supporting GUIX makes it dead to you, that's fine. GUIX isn't the key to progress in the Linux desktop.

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                                                                                                [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                @valerie_tar_gz @luana @jorge @kimapr @LAS @2something

                                                                                                is "progress in the linux desktop" more important that it's users? what does "progress" even mean here?

                                                                                                do we throw away the very diversity that made linux great, for the sake of mainstream success? reducing linux to the same as the other centralized platforms? that is not progress to me

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                                                                                                  [?]Valerie » 🌐
                                                                                                  @valerie_tar_gz@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                  @navi @LAS @jorge @2something @kimapr @luana The "progress" is what flatpak next has to offer over flatpak lol. That's what the entire discussion is about.

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                                                                                                    [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                    @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                    @valerie_tar_gz @LAS @jorge @2something @kimapr @luana

                                                                                                    "progress in the linux desktop" as a sentence, implies it's something beyond just flatpak, but like about linux as a whole

                                                                                                    it's not progress for linux if it's "progress" that start to fail what brought us this far

                                                                                                      [?]Maciej Barć » 🌐
                                                                                                      @xgqt@functional.cafe

                                                                                                      @kimapr @LAS @jorge @2something

                                                                                                      same case for:
                                                                                                      - Gentoo (w/ OpenRC),
                                                                                                      - Alpine,
                                                                                                      - Void,
                                                                                                      - Artix & Parabola & other Arch forks,
                                                                                                      - Devuan & Artix & MX and other Debian-based forks that switch or mod init.

                                                                                                      possibly will break flatpak in:
                                                                                                      - Debian w/ sysv/OpenRC,
                                                                                                      - ChromeOS & WSL because of special conditions they imposes on init and bringup,
                                                                                                      - NixOS - is everything cool and happy on NixOS in that case? I would be cautious.

                                                                                                      In fact the Gentoo userbase of Flatpak is rather large. Nowadays the main reason to install Flatpak there is to get Steam running because many users decide this is not worth their time to patch manually the Steam runtime mess (32-bit libs - bleh!, gtk2 - yikes!).

                                                                                                      Flatpak was meant to make apps portable - keep it at that!

                                                                                                      I'm rather grateful for Flatpak myself because it allowed me to use heavy (or unpackaged) apps on some less common (but arguably used by vast communities) operating systems like Gentoo, MX Linux and ChromeOS.

                                                                                                      If this instability in the Flatpka ecosystem continues users will have to:
                                                                                                      - bug distro maintainers to take care of heavy, messy and hard to package apps,
                                                                                                      - maintain the pkgs themselves,
                                                                                                      - switch to AppImage or docker/podman.

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                                                                                                        [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
                                                                                                        @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                        possibly will break flatpak in: [...]
                                                                                                        - NixOS - is everything cool and happy on NixOS in that case? I would be cautious.
                                                                                                        NixOS uses systemd extensively and adding services is trivial. I'm sure it'll be fine.
                                                                                                        In fact the Gentoo userbase of Flatpak is rather large.
                                                                                                        [...] main reason [...] is to get Steam running
                                                                                                        Flatpak has been really useful to me on Gentoo for various reasons:
                                                                                                        + Steam on a (no-multilib || musl) system;
                                                                                                        + not having to compile huge projects that I don't use often;
                                                                                                        + testing out desktop software. (otherwise I use nix/guix)

                                                                                                        I suspect the same thing could happen as with systemd-logind, i.e., the systemd-specific parts being extracted to a distro-agnostic solution (elogind in that case).
                                                                                                        The only reason I see for not making it distro-agnostic from the start is that it's easier (for them) to target systemd.

                                                                                                        CC: @xgqt@functional.cafe @kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net @LAS@floss.social @jorge@hachyderm.io @2something@transfem.social

                                                                                                          [?]KDE » 🌐
                                                                                                          @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                          Welcome Kori to the World! Kori is KDE's non-binary⚧️ pet dragon and they'll be presiding over KDE's 30th anniversary celebrations throughout 🏳️‍🌈Pride Month🏳️‍⚧️.

                                                                                                          kde.org/anniversaries/30/

                                                                                                          The egg from https://floss.social/@kde/116515643084742255 has burst open and Kori, KDE's non-binary 🏳️‍🌈 dragon, bursts into the world!

                                                                                                          Alt...The egg from https://floss.social/@kde/116515643084742255 has burst open and Kori, KDE's non-binary 🏳️‍🌈 dragon, bursts into the world!

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                                                                                                            [?]Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ [Surprise me.] » 🤖 🌐
                                                                                                            @Blort@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                            @kde

                                                                                                            Love it! Welcome to the fold Kori, and congrats on the 30 years KDE! 💙

                                                                                                              [?]poma 🦝 🔜 GPN [any/all, mostly she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                              @pomagarnet@chaos.social

                                                                                                              @kde what are you implying with hmmm 😸

                                                                                                                [?]Stemy » 🌐
                                                                                                                @Stem@framapiaf.org

                                                                                                                @kde Who are their parents? Konqi and Katie?

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                                                                                                                  [?]KDE » 🌐
                                                                                                                  @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                  @Stem

                                                                                                                  No no. despite popular belief, Konqi and Katie are just friends.

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                                                                                                                    [?]Stemy » 🌐
                                                                                                                    @Stem@framapiaf.org

                                                                                                                    @kde I didn't think that mascots shipping was so popular in the FLOSS community. 😁

                                                                                                                      [?]Person Who Exists » 🌐
                                                                                                                      @PersonWhoExists@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                      @kde @Stem are they best friends?

                                                                                                                        [?]Qwey » 🌐
                                                                                                                        @qwey@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                        @kde Oh,

                                                                                                                          [?]s3nnet.de » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @s3nnet@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                                          @kde Looks beautiful

                                                                                                                            [?]fnord » 🌐
                                                                                                                            @fnrd@toots.nu

                                                                                                                            @kde soooo cute!

                                                                                                                              [?]WrongOpinions » 🌐
                                                                                                                              @WrongOpinions@toot.community

                                                                                                                              @kde things like that wants me to use windows again. They never do that kind of stuff.

                                                                                                                                [?]ENG. Tretron 🐲 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                @tretron@bark.lgbt

                                                                                                                                @kde based, also love the multiple implications of cracking the egg as celebration of a enby/queer mascott dragon on pride month. 10/10

                                                                                                                                  [?]CIMB4 [she/her > they/them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                  @CIMB4@norden.social

                                                                                                                                  @kde with this simple chess move you're both making a lot of nice people very happy and a lot of assholes very angry :blobcat: :blobcatlove:

                                                                                                                                    [?]Akseli [Any pronouns (lizard, not dragon)] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @aks@scalie.zone

                                                                                                                                    @kde being enby contributor i feel very warm fuzzies right now

                                                                                                                                      [?]Oh_hel_naah » 🌐
                                                                                                                                      @Oh_hel_naah@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                      @kde
                                                                                                                                      FμCK LGBT COMMUNITY 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

                                                                                                                                        [?]Dominik Kummer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @arkades@sciences.social

                                                                                                                                        @kde what a lovely idea 👏

                                                                                                                                          [?]Momo 🏳️‍⚧️:nonbinary_flag: [kitty/she/they/it] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                          @momo@woof.tech

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                                                                                                                                          @kde so cuuuuuuteeee :nkoLove: :blobcattrans:

                                                                                                                                            [?]🏳️‍⚧️ Emily :unverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                            @OtakuEmily@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                            @kde must give headpats!!!!

                                                                                                                                              [?]Lou. » 🔓
                                                                                                                                              @gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                              @kde honestly, after seeing katie rock that orange outfit, I was wondering if she was non-binary

                                                                                                                                                [?]High Quality Tormented Soul » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                @schratze@todon.nl

                                                                                                                                                @kde welcome Kori Taylor, new lead singer of SlipKDEnot

                                                                                                                                                  [?]teartheskies [any] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @teartheskies@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                  @kde if I was sitting on a chair as I saw this, it wouldve made me fall outta my chair

                                                                                                                                                    [?]tiger tiger tiger [tiger / it / they] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                    @thygrrr@tiggi.es

                                                                                                                                                    @kde Non-binary? So you have to compile them from source?

                                                                                                                                                      [?]sylvie » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                      @sylvie@chitter.xyz

                                                                                                                                                      @kde they were born with clothes on?

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]KDE » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                        @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                        @sylvie

                                                                                                                                                        Well, in this case, a scarf. It still gets chilly near the summit of Mount Krikurili until well into June.

                                                                                                                                                          [?]gebastel :QueerCat_Enby: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @gebastel@lsbt.me

                                                                                                                                                          @kde
                                                                                                                                                          :QueerCat_Enby: This cat says hi and thank you to kde!

                                                                                                                                                            [?]festive zivirkari [shi/hir] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                                                                                                                                            @kde based based based based based

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                                                                                                                                                              [?]festive zivirkari [shi/hir] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                              @hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                                                                                                                                              @kde im as close to converted as ive ever been

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                                                                                                                                                                [?]festive zivirkari [shi/hir] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                @hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                                                                                                                                                @kde not close enough tho,,, performance is still meh for one

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                                                                                                                                                                  [?]festive zivirkari [shi/hir] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                  @hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                                                                                                                                                  @kde as someone for whom plasma doesnt quite work but who would like it to get better, is there any developer (prefferably on fedi) who would be open to me sharing direct feedback? might as well ask,,,

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                                                                                                                                                                    [?]micki » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                    @micki@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                                                                                    @kde

                                                                                                                                                                    and where is the 3D print file? 🙏

                                                                                                                                                                      [?]disorderlyf [She/Her, Sie/Ihre, Ella/Su, Elle/Son] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                      @disorderlyf@todon.eu

                                                                                                                                                                      @kde Couldn't have picked a better time to announce this. It's relieving seeing an organisation not just refuse to shy away from Pride but embrace it in the midst of the chaos a lot of us are going through. I suspect you mean it with the pride decor, because while many companies and organisations are opting not to even reskin their logo for exactly 30 days, you're unveiling a new mascot who is canonically non-binary.

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                                                                                                                                                                        [?]KDE » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                        @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                                        @disorderlyf

                                                                                                                                                                        For what its worth, we won't be kicking out any of our most appreciated and intelligent contributors after Pride month either.

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                                                                                                                                                                          [?]disorderlyf [She/Her, Sie/Ihre, Ella/Su, Elle/Son] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                          @disorderlyf@todon.eu

                                                                                                                                                                          @kde Yeah, I heard a certain larger corporate entity in tech has been slashing and burning and it sure does seem like all of it's being done to racial, gender related, and sexual minorities. Maybe if I know any of them I'll point them y'all's way?

                                                                                                                                                                            [?]MoneroChanLovesYou » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                            @MoneroChanLovesYou@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                            @kde gross. Trans people are pedophiles.

                                                                                                                                                                              [?]GT The Fae [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                              @GT@clockwork.monster

                                                                                                                                                                              @kde Finally, an open source alternative to Digimon

                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Alex :neocat_angel: [they/them (she?), dey/deren/keine (sie?)] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                @nuranyak@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                @kde OMG, is this real?

                                                                                                                                                                                It's VERY AWESOME!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                  @fruitchypear@owo.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                  @kde aaaaaaaaaa I love them

                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Draconic NEO » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                    @Draconic_NEO@pawb.fun

                                                                                                                                                                                    @kde They're so cute. It's awesome to see that KDE has a new mascot.

                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Loustro » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                      @Loustro@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                                                      @kde Holy crap, the mascot art is insane. I didn't knew your game lmao

                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]justsoup :asexual_flag: [they/he] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                        @justsoup@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                        @kde This is top ten Fedi posts for me. Its lovely to see some kindness.

                                                                                                                                                                                          KDE boosted

                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]UnfinishedProjects » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                          @UnfinishedProjects@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                          @kde I love the idea of planting 30 trees and encouraging others to do something similar! I'll have to think if there is something I can do this month to do my part ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                            @rysiek@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                            What is the term for something that is so hilariously over-engineered that it actually becomes *substantially worse* at the task (not to mention completely impossible to maintain)?

                                                                                                                                                                                            Asking for a friend.

                                                                                                                                                                                            That friend is me.

                                                                                                                                                                                            :blobcatcoffee:

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                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]funnymonkey [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                              @funnymonkey@freeradical.zone

                                                                                                                                                                                              @rysiek Anything related to edtech standards (looking at you, LTI)

                                                                                                                                                                                              (And yeah, I know not directly an answer to your question, but I am apparently incapable of resisting an easy dunk on the shitty standards that power edtech)

                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Peter N. M. Hansteen » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                @pitrh@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek you could try "Rube Goldberg contraption" for North American audiences.

                                                                                                                                                                                                In DK and NO at least, "Storm P-apparat" is the local language term, I'm sure there are other regional variants that would apply

                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Peter Kotrčka » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                  @pkotrcka_1@social.vivaldi.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek in czech, there is this term "rovnák na vohejbák" (slang, so hard to even translate literally, basically means it's something that straighten things that were intentionally bent by the other unneccessary tool - so putting them back to the original state or not changing them in 2 steps 🙂 ). I know it's not what you're looking for, but kind of works here as well...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]The Modesto Kid » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                    @themodestokid@zirk.us

                                                                                                                                                                                                    @rysiek the human CNS

                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]christian mock [he] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                      @cm@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                      @rysiek "BMW Motorrad".

                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Mx. Eddie R [They/them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                        @silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                        @rysiek
                                                                                                                                                                                                        The marketing term is "ai", but more specifically it's Large Language Model.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]The Psychotic Network Ferret » 🤖 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                          @nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          @rysiek A Microsoft product.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]FeloniousPunk [Whatever] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                            @FeloniousPunk@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                            @rysiek @catsalad There’s ALWAYS a German word for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Oneironaut » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Oneironaut@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                              @rysiek In my experience the general term for this is ‘bloat’

                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Dealiah » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Dealiah@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek Generative AI - aka LLMs. 😆

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Bee O'Problem :godot: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek as another said EnterpriseTM was pretty commonly used for that, especially in the 00s, though I've not seen it crop up as much these days

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Don Jon 💥 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @DonJon111@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @rysiek inferior - if it ain't broke, don't fix it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Que [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @BabblingGeek@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @rysiek engineered to death

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]jaark » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @jaark@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @rysiek either 'Enterprise Grade' or 'military grade'.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Chris » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ASprinkleofSage@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @rysiek railway engineers call that "HS2"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]soup » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @hotsoup@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @rysiek overspecced

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Ni » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @ni@hostux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @rysiek slop?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]some kind of orange shape » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @clayote@peoplemaking.games

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek Yiddish has "farpotshket": broken, because someone tried to fix it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Luna Dragofelis ΘΔ🏳️‍⚧️🐱 [she/her or it/its] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @LunaDragofelis@void.lgbt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek In Germany we have a word for making something worse by attempting to improve it: verschlimmbessern (noun form: Verschlimmbesserung)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Trouble » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @trouble@masto.ai

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @rysiek the polite word for it is over-engineered

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Zimmie [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @bob_zim@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @rysiek “Enterprise-grade”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Wojciech Pisarski » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @wpisarski@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @rysiek I think the term is "enterprise"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Allan » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @allancavanagh@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @rysiek it’s called bankofirelandbankingappforiphone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Neil [He/Him/Bub] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @gneilyo@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @rysiek A Tesla door handle

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]John Q McDonald » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jqmcd@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @rysiek the Internet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Gerard Cunningham ✒️ » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @faduda@mastodon.ie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek Internet-connected.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]The Turtle » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek we used to call them "B-52s," which is actually kinda unfair to B-52 bombers. But when what you need is a paper clip, a B-52 sucks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Beggar Midas » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @rysiek

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “Over‑optimization failure”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A system tuned so aggressively that it collapses under its own cleverness.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    From ML, compilers, and distributed systems.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “Pathological complexity”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    from systems engineering: complexity that no longer increases capability, only fragility.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “Counterproductive sophistication”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    polite academic way of saying “you made it fancy and now it sucks.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “Gold‑plating”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Project‑management term for adding unnecessary features that degrade maintainability and reliability.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Beggar Midas » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @rysiek
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      “Kluge” (or “kludge”)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A classic engineering insult:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      a system that technically works but is held together by hacks, duct tape, and prayer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is usually under‑engineered, but it can apply to over‑engineered monstrosities too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      “Design decadence”
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A term used in architecture and software criticism: complexity for its own sake, not for function.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]an actual bus » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @renardboy@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @rysiek over-engineered *is* the term for that lmao

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Kagan MacTane (he/him) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @kagan@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @rysiek A Rube Goldberg machine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Phosphenes » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Phosphenes@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @rysiek

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's called React.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]:awesome:🐦‍🔥nemo™🐦‍⬛ 🇺🇦🍉 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @nemo@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @rysiek entshitification? 🤔

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]malte » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @malte@anticapitalist.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek an abstraction layer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]toadjaune » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @toadjaune@hostux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek "that's 6 problems in a trenchcoat maskerading as a solution"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (can't remember who this delightful formulation originally came from, sorry :/)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I am happy to announce that blocking *.bc.googleusercontent.com on my mailserver has reduced my spam count to almost zero. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @homelab

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Daily report from my mailserver, showing a bunch of spam from bc.googleusercontent.com IP addresses being rejected.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Alt...Daily report from my mailserver, showing a bunch of spam from bc.googleusercontent.com IP addresses being rejected.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]lia » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @lianna@micro.webgarden.click

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @jwildeboer @homelab Any false positives so far?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Paul_IPv6 [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lianna @jwildeboer @homelab

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i've been doing it for 3 or 4 weeks now, catches 3-5 spams a day, zero false positives.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i'm also on a mailing list of large mail instance admins and everyone who's tried it there has seen zero false positives.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Interesting! How'd you go about doing it?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Was it a Sieve filter/rule, or something else?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @me header checks in my postfix mail server. In /etc/postfix/header_checks I have

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            /^Received:.*\.bc.googleusercontent\.com/ REJECT Spam and Phishing source

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            and in /etc/postfix/main.cf I have

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [...]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/header_checks

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Emoji reactions:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @grunfink@comam.es do you have any reports about migration of pixelfed accounts to snac? I'm eyeing one of mine and as I understand it the theory is the same, but I wonder if there is a recorded evidence of practice

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]The Real Grunfink » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @grunfink@comam.es

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi. Sorry, I didn't try myself nor have read about any successful nor failed stories about migrating from pixelfed to .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Boosting your post, just in case anyone out there knows something.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                CC: @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]FreeBSD Foundation » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @FreeBSDFoundation@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  EuroBSDCon 2026 Travel Grant Applications Now Open!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that travel grant applications are now open for EuroBSDCon 2026, taking place September 9–13, 2026, in Brussels, Belgium.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  📅 Application deadline: July 7, 2026

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Learn more about eligibility, guidelines, and how to apply:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  freebsdfoundation.org/our-work

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Jezus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (on) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @mgorny@mastodon.com.pl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Czas na kolejną ankietę z serii "jak starymi osobami jesteście".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Czy jeździxyście pociągami na trakcji parowej?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wyjaśnienie: przez "regularne" rozumiem pociąg, który przynajmniej sezonowo jeździ w ramach normalnego rozkładu jazdy, na normalnych trasach i na który nie trzeba kupować specjalnych biletów; a "okazyjny" to taki, który jest uruchamiany tylko w jakieś specjalne okazje i trzeba kupować specjalne bilety. Tak więc na-ten-przykład parowóz Poznań – , który jeździ tylko w soboty, ale przez cały rozkład i na normalnym bilecie, to opcja C.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nie, nigdy.:9
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tak, ale tylko na kursach okazyjnych.:5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tak, w ramach regularnych kursów weekendowych.:1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tak, w ramach regularnych kursów w dni robocze.:10

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Brie Mmm » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @brie@venera.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @mgorny Nie. Ale to dlatego, że parowozy to było coś co owszem, jeszcze jeździ, w jakichś dzikich okolicach na wschodzie albo północy, ale przecież nie tutaj.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Jezus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (on) » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @mgorny@mastodon.com.pl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @brie, Wolsztyn to "wschód albo północ"?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]miko » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @mikokrol@mastodon.com.pl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @mgorny
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nawet w dzieciństwie miałem tę frajdę, że na Moście Teatralnym można się było chować w tym białym "dymie", jak parowóz przejeżdżał pod spodem. Ehhh, a po niebie krążyły pterodaktyle 🦕🚂

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jakub Klawiter :mastodon: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @wariat@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @mikokrol
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A to tak, takie przejeżdżające przez Poznań główny też pamiętam. I może z Poznania też jechałem gdzieś, ale tego po prostu nie wiem, a Jaśkiem do puszczy to jeździliśmy kilka lat z rzędu (aż nie zlikwidowali linii).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jezus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (on) » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @mgorny@mastodon.com.pl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @wariat @mikokrol, cholera, wy to jesteście starzy! Ja się na D łapię tylko dlatego, że jeszcze (bodajże) dwa lata temu jeździły między Lesznem i Wolsztynem.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]@7 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @seachdamh@101010.pl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @mgorny @wariat @mikokrol w małopolsce długo jeździły na np. na linii Chabówka - Nowy Sącz, dopóki oczywiście ta linia działała.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Jakub Klawiter :mastodon: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @wariat@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @mgorny
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  No, jak teraz o tym myślę było sobo strzelać foty z lokomotywami i samym lokomotywom jak sobie jadą, ale wtedy to było niezwykłe, ale z drugiej strony no taki pociąg tam jeździ i tyle… :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @mikokrol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Jakub Klawiter :mastodon: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @wariat@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @mgorny
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tak. Jeździłem w wakacje „Jaśkiem” z Szamotuł do Zatomia. Zupełnie regularne połączenie, choć już wtedy lekko egzotyczne.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]it's pronounced 'yagoda' => GPN [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @j-g00da@donotsta.re

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I love boat city #art #photography

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Interior of abandoned factory, everything is dark except the door frame in which one can see stairs, bricks, and rubble

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt...Interior of abandoned factory, everything is dark except the door frame in which one can see stairs, bricks, and rubble

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]janka owoce [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @owoce@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @j-g00da i just stumbled across this again and ahhhh this is such a beautiful shot!! album cover material

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]it's pronounced 'yagoda' => GPN [she/her] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @j-g00da@donotsta.re

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @owoce I’ve got some better album cover materials :D just wait

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jeremiah Fieldhaven » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @JeremiahFieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So my systems recently updated to rsync 3.4.3, and as soon as that happened my backup system - which does incremental backups using multiple --compare-dest= arguments - started to fail on anything but a full backup.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Revert to 3.4.1 and it works.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So I go look at the source in GitHub to see what might have changed, because there doesn't seem to be anything relevant in the changelog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Since 3.4.1, 36 commits by "tridge and claude"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh for fuck's sakes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Taggart :ifin: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hot diggity dog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The briefing concludes that standalone generative AI systems, based on unlawful web scraping, depend on mass invasions of privacy by design, and are fundamentally incompatible with [International Human Rights Law]. As such, Amnesty International is calling for a prohibition of such systems, including where such systems are identified as exacerbating existing inequalities or creating new forms of discrimination.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Craig Aaen-Stockdale » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @openwarfare@snabelen.no

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @mttaggart Looks like once again we were so preoccupied with whether or not we could, that we didn't stop to think if we should.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]@iveyline » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Iveyline@mastodon.nz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @mttaggart An interesting turn of events. I guess almost every thief gets caught in the end.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @rysiek@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Iveyline @mttaggart the thief has not been caught yet. So far a few loud voices called out "thief!"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's good they did and I welcome that! But catching the thief is going to take a while.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Angela Scholder » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rysiek @Iveyline @mttaggart Only caught when their small fish, like Aaron Schwarz.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @rysiek@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @AngelaScholder @Iveyline @mttaggart I take exception to calling Aaron Swartz a "thief"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Angela Scholder » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @rysiek @Iveyline @mttaggart I agree, but here we have the problem of the legal system clearly being utterly biased.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's just fundamentally unjust that research paid for by public money is not in the public domain avalable like Open Source.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Bicycle grease whiffer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lilylunatic@estrogen.network

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        lesbionage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Due to my somewhat prickly and precise definition of "software ethics" I would not, personally, do this, but I think it's good that someone has. The industry—and the "community", such as it is—needs a wake-up call. The conversation *around* this reminds me of the loud booing from commencement crowds as speakers wax rhapsodic about "AI" destroying their careers and their futures.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          github.com/jqwik-team/jqwik/is

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]clever display name lacker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @pfish.zone@bsky.brid.gy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          even aside from the politics of it all, the absurdly long and overwrought opening salvo of comments, all obviously LLM-generated, is pretty funny

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @pfish.zone so much of the maintainer community right now is handwringing about "but if we ban LLM use, how will we tell?" and I am exasperated because the answer is not some sophisticated word-probability detection machine, it is "they will be blindingly obvious about it, and if they manage to not be obvious for a second, they will brag about it, they can't stop themselves"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @tokyo_0@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @glyph @dalias Yes. And even if some people do manage to circumvent the rule by making their violation of it impossible to detect, there is still value in the rule existing to aid handling of all the situations where this is not the case, and those skillful circumventors are still personally liable for any consequences of their own violation of the rule that emerge later simply because the rule exists.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "Some people might still avoid the rule" is not and has never been a sound reason to not have a rule. "Some people might get away with murder so we won't do anything about the people we actually saw commit murder and who are still stood there holding the smoking gun" makes clear how ridiculous a position it is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Robin Adams [He/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @robinadams@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @tokyo_0 @glyph @dalias It's about consent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If I have that rule and you upload LLM-generated code to my project, you've done it without my consent. If I never find out, then you managed to trick me and violate my consent without my noticing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you're in my home and I say "Please don't touch the family heirlooms on that shelf" and your answer is "Oh, but how would you ever know if I did?"... I start to feel I don't want you in my home any more.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]it's pronounced 'yagoda' => GPN [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @j-g00da@donotsta.re

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                piwo.sh once again was pretty awesome :3 Great talks; great people; new faces from fedi met; @hspoz would be a perfect tokamak thanks to its toroidal topology. I even spontaneously decided to do a lightning talk about eating ice cream wrong. What the hell a guy just drove onto a closing rail crossing while I’m writing this and I only just got back to boat city. Anyway; I had a lot of fun, come to piwo next year! Log onto piwo right now. Go to piwo. Dive into piwo. You can piwo.sh it. It’s on piwo.sh. Piwo has it for you. Piwo has it for you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]justsoup :asexual_flag: [they/he] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @justsoup@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't know how I hadn't discovered this sooner, but the Gardenhouse project (gardenhouse.pinkro.se/) is everything I've ever wanted. The novel systemd utilities reimplemented in a distro (and kernel!) agnostic way and fully stand-alone. Their tmpfiles.d implementation is particularly impressive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @mgorny@social.treehouse.systems

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lately I've been thinking about how is perceived by people. So often they're stuck in the "ricer" mindset: Gentoo is being built from source, so it must be ZOMG fast. And if it isn't, then what's the point?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If I were to make four points for Gentoo (to stop myself from making more), they would be:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Gentoo is independent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  There is no company behind Gentoo. There is no business plan. It's made and maintained by volunteers. Driven by passion and not profit incentive. And we want to keep it that way.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Gentoo aims to be secure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  We are maintaining our own infrastructure to reduce the risk of being hijacked. We're securing our distribution channels and mirrors using OpenPGP. We're only using Codeberg (which we really appreciate) and GitHub as mirrors (with OpenPGP commit signatures) and contribution channels. We have a dedicated security team, who works with the developers to keep packages free of vulnerabilities and our users informed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. Gentoo is made by humans.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  We banned LLM contributions two years ago, and never regretted it. We didn't "wait and see", we took decisive action, and if we got left behind, it's only for the better. Unfortunately, in today's LLM-ridden world we can't stop slop software from being packaged in Gentoo without sacrificing our commitment to keep packages up to date, but we try to keep the worst offenders (like copywashed chardet) at bay.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  4. Gentoo supports sustainability.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This may sound ironic when so many of us build everything from source, but we're actually trying to make computing sustainable. Gentoo's source-first nature makes it inherently flexible. We try our best to support a plethora of older and less common hardware. We go against the flow and still try to provide a workable system on hardware that is not supported by Rust or V8. And on top of that, we do our best to provide binary packages for a variety of configurations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Of course, that's not all. I want Gentoo to be reliable and stable, to be oriented towards privacy by default, to be welcome and respectful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And all these things ultimately depend on people working on Gentoo, and contributing to Gentoo. We always need more people that share these principles and want to help us achieve them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What do you appreciate in Gentoo?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Christian Walther » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @isziaui@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    While I’m down the QR code rabbit hole, here is another one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cover any corners to make the decoder latch onto the others.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Two QR codes somehow mashed into one, rotated at different angles, and they still work, decoding to two different URLs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Alt...Two QR codes somehow mashed into one, rotated at different angles, and they still work, decoding to two different URLs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Simon Cozens » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @simoncozens@typo.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @isziaui I once made an Arabic square Kufic (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannai_s) QR code that contained its own text.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Agnieszka R. Turczyńska [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @agturcz@circumstances.run

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      TIL: The word "average" comes from Arabic "ʕawār", which means: fault, blemish, defect, flaw. And in Polish we have a word "awaria", coming from the same root, meaning failure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @mgorny@social.treehouse.systems

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      New on (this time with quotes from Fedi): "Why Gentoo?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2026/0

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      """
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Multiple times in the past I’ve been thinking of how is perceived by the wider public, the non-users. What probably stands out most is compiling. Almost everyone who heard of Gentoo knows it has something to do with compiling everything. And why are we doing that? Well, besides being hardcore, the common sentiment goes for performance. So yeah, Gentoo users must be some kind of hardcore ricers who try to squeeze every last bit of their system performance.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      To be honest, I don’t think that’s a good way to describe Gentoo. Yes, compiling is at the core of it. But performance? I don’t think so, at least not in the obvious, -O9999 -fzomg-fast way. The world has moved on, CPUs have gotten faster, optimizations have gotten smarter, and distributions have started optimizing more aggressively. Optimization-wise, I suspect your average Ubuntu package with generic optimizations may be no slower than the equivalent Gentoo package fine-tuned for your CPU. And if it’s not, then it probably won’t make a real difference anyway.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      There’s much more to Gentoo than that. Yes, some of it comes from building from source: the flexibility. But a lot of it comes from the wider Gentoo philosophy, the philosophy that brought us all together. The idea that Gentoo is the distribution we’re making for ourselves and people who enjoy Gentoo. So if I were to make a few arguments for Gentoo, I’d focus on that. And this is what I’d like to do here.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bit late to the party, but if you have a moment, I urge you to read @mgorny@treehouse.systems's latest blog post about what makes Gentoo Gentoo:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2026/05/28/why-gentoo/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Every now and again I get asked why I use Gentoo, and I usually say that it's the perfect OS for me, or that does what I want it to do. (Though, sometimes I go on rambling for hours... :gentowo:)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think that this article conveys the point of Gentoo really well ( much better than I do :p ), so if you're curious, give it a read!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@mgorny/116650337504283427
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@mgorny/116554856666136859

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Huge thank you to the Gentoo community for their exceptional work

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]infinite love ⴳ » 🤖 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @trwnh@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          google ai overview gone wrong (gone sexual) [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          thanks google

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          google search for "swap full" yields an ai overview about the term "full swap" as used by swingers to describe situations where traded partners engage in full sexual intercourse (as opposed to a "soft swap" which only involves touching and kissing)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Alt...google search for "swap full" yields an ai overview about the term "full swap" as used by swingers to describe situations where traded partners engage in full sexual intercourse (as opposed to a "soft swap" which only involves touching and kissing)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i hate x11 (the protocol) so hard, like excuse me what the fuck:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                tmp_name = g_ascii_strdown (dev->name, -1);
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                if (strstr (tmp_name, " pad"))
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  input_source = GDK_SOURCE_TABLET_PAD;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                else if (strstr (tmp_name, "wacom") ||
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         strstr (tmp_name, "pen") ||
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         strstr (tmp_name, "stylus") ||
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         strstr (tmp_name, "eraser"))
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  input_source = GDK_SOURCE_PEN;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                else if (!strstr (tmp_name, "mouse") &&
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         !strstr (tmp_name, "pointer") &&
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         !strstr (tmp_name, "qemu usb tablet") &&
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         !strstr (tmp_name, "spice vdagent tablet") &&
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         !strstr (tmp_name, "virtualbox usb tablet") &&
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         has_abs_axes (display, dev->classes, dev->num_classes))
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  input_source = GDK_SOURCE_TOUCHSCREEN;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                else if (strstr (tmp_name, "trackpoint") ||
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         strstr (tmp_name, "dualpoint stick"))
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  input_source = GDK_SOURCE_TRACKPOINT;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                else
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  input_source = GDK_SOURCE_MOUSE;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          what do you mean this is how you recognize the type of an input device?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Gemini0 :verifiedgenderfluid: :verifiedpansexual: [Any/All] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @gemini0@labyrinth.zone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @navi for a while i was wondering why the push to wayland that kde was making was so hard, then i realized just how much x11 actually sucks and how badly it needed the wheel to be reinvented

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @gemini0 @navi Is this actually the problem of X11 protocol? It has extensions and the XInput extention has a class field. But I am not an expert on this part. But I do not see any reason one could not have a nice extension if the old one should be problematic. So no, I still do not agree that there was any reason for reinvention.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker @gemini0

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              the defined Xi classes from XInput2 are lacking for this, and for device types there's only XiMasterPointer and XiSlavePointer (oof terminology) which don't differentiate between different kinds of pointers

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (also XInput2's event structures are all defined in a UB way, instead of doing an union or shared header struct, they copy-paste all the fields from the header into all event types, then do arbitrary casts)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @navi @gemini0 Lol, wasn't xinput2 designed by the wayland guys?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker @gemini0 i have no idea

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  but wayland was designed mostly by xorg developers so it's more likely to be the other way around

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi @gemini0 No, I don't think so. I think Daniel Stone was involved in designing xinput2 and then later decided X was all crap and has to replaced by Wayland (which I think it a much poorer design).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker @gemini0 my all my experience writing wayland and xcb clients, i disagree about the design, imo wayland is better designed

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi @gemini0 yep, daniel stone. x.org/releases/current/doc/inp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I very much like x11 with xcb. It seems very clean to me. Where do you see a specific problem?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I never did anything fancy with input devices though, so maybe this part is bad. But I notice that xinput had different device types...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @uecker @gemini0 it's been years since i used xcb, so i can't remember specific pains i had, sorry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          but the overall structure of wayland, clear extension/capability negotiation
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          no methods to "query state", server sends it once and the client stores it if needed
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          no assumption of a 2d global coordinate space which allows 3d/vr compositors to exist as a whole
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          simple and minimal wire protocol (like really¹)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          damage tracking being the default expectation so my laptop's battery doesn't cry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          it used to lack protocols that people needed, those are being (slooowwly) addressed, but whenever they are, the solution ends up being better than all other desktop apis (the benefit of hindsight i suppose)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ¹: https://gaultier.github.io/blog/wayland_from_scratch.html

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @navi @gemini0 That overall does not look too much different to modern X and xcb to me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker @gemini0 applications still expect a 2d global coordination system with self-positioning

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              still expect to be able to query or record any other window, or grab the keyboard at any time, and so on

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              those can't be ever changed without breaking clients

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @navi @gemini0 or so the wayland propaganda says. X had a security extension that isolated clients forever. It did not support some modern extensions. But I had patch to add those and the clients I tried worked just fine. I also do not quite see the issue with 2d global coordinate system. we had 3D desktops with X11 in 90s. maybe it was some hack, but I really can't see what the fundamental issue should be.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker i'm not sure about those extensions, since for ages i've seen people running separate nested x instances, one per client, just to isolate the clients

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  and the issue with 2d coordinates, is that vr compositors are not just 3d objects with 2d textures mapped onto them, each window is on it's own 3d coordinate, with custom rotations and such, possibly hand-moved by the user -- you can't do that and expect clients that position themselves in 2d to work properly

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  even if you map regions of the 2d plane to specific 3d nodes, that breaks as soon as a window tries to move itself halfway into another window's space

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi It is the XSECURITY extension also supported by ssh but usually deactivated. It isolates clients but also then sadly does not expose newer extension needed by modern clients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I still do not get the problem. So there are issues with older clients? Changing the protocol completely will also not make this work for older clients.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker the problem is that you can't do it without breaking X11's api contract

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      and it's not just old clients moving themselves, it's popup menus and anything that is position aware and has to share the coordinate space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      aka one big virtual display doesn't work for non desktop flatscreens traditional setups

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      and even for some nontraditional flatscreens it's a massive pain (e.g. a scrolling window manager with multiple outputs, where you'd need to either do hacky rendering tricks or deal with windows showing up across outputs when they shouldn't)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi but people did this with x11. wobbly windows, windows on a cube, 3d distorted windows? maybe I still missing your point.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @uecker i really don't know how to explain the problem better, sorry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i'm mostly saying what i heard from developers of such compositors

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @uecker my own compositor will make quite heavy use to the fact that i'm not forced into one large virtual display

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            but idk how tricky the same would be to do in x11

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker now i wonder what happens if any of those windows opens a popup while it's in 3d effect mode, that could be the issue, idk

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @navi A popup is just another window, and the wm ultimately decides placement. And don't there is anything of this kind that can not be done on x11.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker yes but will it be positioned properly, or will it just join the array of windows?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  a popup shouldn't be rendered by itself, but does the x compositor here have enough information to know it's supposed to be tied up to a specific local surface coordinate on it's parent, or not

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi I don't know, but why wouldn'it? If you click on a menu on a gtk application, the menu is also a new windows that appears on the right place on top of its parent.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker because translating from a 2d coordinate space to a 3d one isn't super trivial, and would involve a lot of heuristics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      if the menu window is manually positioned by the client, do we know if it's a popup, some other menu, or an actual (separate) child window?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi What I always found far more interesting is being able to move windows between devices. E.g. from a cell phone to the desktop, or from the desktop to some computer controlling a beamer, etc. This never was supported by GUIs but worked perfectly fine if you implemented it yourself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Kirtai 🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @uecker @navi
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I remember that. It was supported in the protocol but not in xlib so most people didn't even realise it was possible.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @kirtai @navi Yes, it was originally part of the GPE palmtop environment. xlib had annoying limitations and also the default error handler was to terminate the program instead of trying to reconnect or something. But easy to do otherwise. I had high hopes for LInux 20 years ago...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Kirtai 🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker @navi
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The protocol was so much more powerful and expressive than the libraries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I too wish they'd done something better with it and Linux.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @kirtai @navi Well, there was XCB which is great, but just as I thought we will see progress, somehow the people paid to maintain the core infrastructure decided to redesign it. My conspiracy theory is that something like X was not controllable enough for the walled garden some people want to design for us.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker @kirtai "controllable"? out of everything to say, that's the most off

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  there's one, maybe two if you count the bsd fork, x11 servers

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  while there's dozens of wayland compositors, many with their own protocol extensions for things unique to them, and a shared core for things that aren't unique

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi @kirtai The question is, which one will you still be allowed to use on your systemd system that verifies your identity before you can use some app with remote attestation to watch some content, and all this on a Rust-hardended system that can not be jail broken anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker @kirtai and now you lost me, what does this has to do with that? either x11 or wayland would make no difference?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi @kirtai You could lock down X as well, but in a world where proprietary pixels are not supposed to leave your device, something like X is completely the wrong design.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @uecker @kirtai `waypipe` and oh look at that the client has no idea i'm getting pixels out of the local device over the network

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @navi @kirtai Yes, I am not saying this is impossible. But look how long it took. And waypipe is still a hack, network transparency was not a design goal and still isn't.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker @kirtai waypipe existed for years, and it's not a hack, it's wayland as designed, thin wire protocol that can implemented in N ways, waypipe just implements it as pixel buffer compression + proxy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sure it's not network transparent as x11 was, but ssh -X is unusable on any modern client, *i've tried* -- sharing a client over an unstable network, going xwayland over waypipe was more reliable than ssh -X

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              modern x11 programs don't use the x11 native toolkit, they get pixel buffers and render those themselves, and that's unbearably slow over e.g. wifi since there will be no transit compression

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @navi @kirtai But waypipe needs to scrap the on-the-wire data and if the protocol changes, it might need to updating. This seems a serious design flaw to me. That ssh -X is slow is because toolkits do not care about this use case, because it can be fast with clients that use the protocol as intended.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker @kirtai waypipe is a wayland compositor, the same way kde's kwin or gnome's mutter, or sway, or so on

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  remote clients talk to it as if they're talking with a native compositor, it serializes the info, and passes to your local client that is acting as well, a wayland client

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  it's not scrapping as it's just another implementation, the only way a protocol update breaks it, is if that protocol update breaks *all* compositors, and that would be really really bad for everyone
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi @kirtai But I stop now, maybe I am just getting old and grumpy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker @kirtai i'm sorry, i get annoyed at those kind of conspiracy theories because i have looked at how wayland works, how the process of protocol extensions works, and so on

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      it's completely open, anyone can submit, and there's namespaces like ext- where no member can even NACK (though you still need to get a member to ACK)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      or you can ignore wayland-protocols as a whole and do your own thing, a couple xml files, codegen, and done

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi @kirtai yes, ok. not saying wayland is bad. I just don't buy some of the rationale for dropping X.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @uecker @kirtai that's fair imo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @uecker @kirtai and basically nobody implements it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            because basically no one wants it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @uecker @kirtai

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              while also

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              > This protocol is not intended for implementing Digital Rights Management on general (e.g. Desktop) systems, and would only be useful for closed systems. As the server is the one responsible for implementing the content-protection, the client can only trust the content-protection as much they can trust the server.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              yeah, i'm not worried much about that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              there is some merit in blocking out content from screenshots/recording (e.g. for a bank window or private chat, *extremely* useful for folks that make live streams) (also obviously not implemented like this)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              but the compositor has always the last say, and i'm not installing a compositor that forces drm onto me, the same way i wouldn't install a x compositor that does the same

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @navi @kirtai yes, but it explains the "X is insecure because one app can read the other's screen" claims which were always a bit strange as long as any app can read the memory of any other of the same user. Intel and co. wanted a secure platform for content. X was not ideal. And already today some apps will not run on grapheneos with modified software. So you may access netflix, but only on Ubuntu with systemd and a Wayland compositer that has this. This is my prediction for where this goes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @uecker @kirtai except that "any app can read the memory of any other of the same user" isn't true

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  gdb needs to be the parent, or specific kernel options need to be enabled, for it to read memory of another program

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  and sandboxes exist, a lot of folks use them, but it doesn't help when they all share the same x connection with global resources that cross the sandbox

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  as for that prediction, honestly, good luck with that to them, it's trivial to make a compositor that announces that interface and does very much nothing with it, that is *if* they can ever get a serious desktop project to implement something like that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  the compositor has the final say, the only way they can force that on people would be to sell a computer with a locked down linux install, no root access, etc, etc -- and they already have windows and macos for that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @uecker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi @kirtai The technology developed is shaped by the interests that fund their development. To some degree this is ok. But it explains the priorities. Network transpareny is not important, systemd needs to control everything, memory safety is really important, etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @uecker @kirtai wayland has nothing to do with systemd and never did

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "network transparency" works way better on wayland for me than it ever did on X, as https://www.mankier.com/1/waypipe exists, and can do actual video encoding on damage tracked pixel buffers, meaning i get usable performance on modern clients, versus whenever i tried ssh -X (both over wifi), anything with pixbufs was unusable slow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      and about governance, https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/blob/main/MEMBERS.md?ref_type=heads, https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/blob/main/GOVERNANCE.md?ref_type=heads

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      now a days it's a diverse set of projects, it's really anyone that has put actual effort into the ecosystem can get an invitation, all discussion is open, right there

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Cassandrich » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi This looks like it's gtk folks not knowing what they're doing, not any sign of a problem with x11.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @dalias i did not find in XInput{1,2} docs or headers any better indication to find out if a device is a stylus/pen or not

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          could've missed something, but searching was kinda fruitless thus why i went to look at how gimp did it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Cassandrich » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @dalias@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @navi Probably they should be classifying it based in absolute/relative positioning, presence of things like pressure sensitivity, etc. rather than by interpreting human oriented names.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @dalias both touch screen devices and tablet pens have absolute positioning, pressure sensitivity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://github.com/qt/qt/blob/0a2f2382541424726168804be2c90b91381608c6/src/gui/kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp#L322

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              qt does seem to check for an ATOM instead of matching string names

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              having to separately check for WacomStylus and XTabletStylus is certainly... pain, but better than strstr i guess, though those atoms seem to be documented... nowhere

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]princess pancake :butterfly_::neofox_lesbian: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @natty@astolfo.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @dalias@hachyderm.io @navi@social.vlhl.dev right, so

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - positioning
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - pressure
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - axial rotation
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - tilt
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - lift
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - eraser mode
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - kind of buttons present
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - haptics
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @natty @dalias

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  my tablet has no rotation/tilt info, no eraser, no buttons, no haptics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  so going off that list alone, it'd report absolute positioning and pressure, the same as a pressure-aware touchscreen might report

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Laurent Bercot » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ska@social.treehouse.systems

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @navi X11 might suck, but what I'm certain of is that it's nothing compared to the GNOME levels of suck, so can you find another source from a different codebase that exposes the X11 flaws? 😅

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @ska qt does query for specific atoms in the device which is better but needs specialcasing for wacom devices

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      atoms of which i had no idea those atoms were defined because looking over docs i find nothing about them anywhere

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Martin Uecker » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @uecker@mastodon.social

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @uecker @ska qt queries ERASER and STYLUS as well as TABLET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        only TABLET is listed on that atom list...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]calcifer :nes_fire: [he/they (or whatever feels right)] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @calcifer@masto.hackers.town

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          trans kid assistance [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I’m looking for a source for a good, front-connected chest binder for my kid. We have one pull-over style that we measured for good fit, but they want (a) more to enable more frequent wearing and (b) front-connection for ease of taking safety and sensory breaks while at work and school

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone know of a shop that serves the US, has quality products, etc.? We’d prefer to give our money to trans-run or well-allied businesses (in that order). Boost ok.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]KDE » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "This Week in Plasma" brings the news that devs are hard at work polishing Plasma 6.7 due to be released on the 16th of June.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Annoying bugs, like a crash when a monitor was quickly switched off and on again, or being unable to recover a window you have dragged off the edge of a screen, are being solved to make sure your experience with your upcoming desktop environment is smooth and pleasant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          blogs.kde.org/2026/05/30/this-

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          A screenshot of Plasma 6.7 showing the Discover software manager, Falkon web browser, and the System Monitor app.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Alt...A screenshot of Plasma 6.7 showing the Discover software manager, Falkon web browser, and the System Monitor app.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Makura » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Makura@stinky.makura.top

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @kde shouldve been 6th of july tbh :neocat_angel:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]feld » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @feld@friedcheese.us

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @kde great now just make sure it doesn't require systemd

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Haijo » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Haijo7@snac.haijo.eu

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @feld@friedcheese.us plasma also works on BSD, so i don't think that's something you need to worry about

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Gianmarco Gargiulo » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @feld @kde it doesn't.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]feld » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @feld@friedcheese.us

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @gianmarcogg03 @kde except it does if you want a real desktop experience with the Plasma Login Manager, the sddm fork.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]KDE » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @feld @gianmarcogg03

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What do you mean by "real desktop experience"? What would constitute a "fake" one?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      By the way, you can get the Plasma desktop experience by typing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      startplasma-wayland

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      or

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      startplasma-x11

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      from the command line.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No login manager of any description required—except your fingers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]KDE » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @kde@floss.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @feld @gianmarcogg03

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Here is a presentation you may find interesting:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        hosted-files.sched.co/osselcna

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It is about the stuff that "just worked" for someone trying to use FreeBSD, an OS with no systemd in sight, as an end user. It is by Deb Goodkin, Executive Director of the FreeBSD Foundation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Check out slide 9.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]shellbyte but mastosoc [they/them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @errorgurumeditation@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @kde

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          >Plasma 6.7 due to be released on the 16th of June

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          missed opportunity to release it on June 7 😔
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          (or maybe it can still be delayed to the 6th of July)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jana » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @janamarie@mystical.garden

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            spot

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A minimalist photo of a modernist building corner, it is beige coloured, sharp corners and dark dark grey blinds. The sky above is pale blue. A street lamp stands infront of the building, towering it, facing down the corner, like a spotlight

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jana » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @janamarie@mystical.garden

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              some recent IR experiments with a 720nm long-pass filter. I like this, it's dramatic and has it's own neat characteristic, buut I will probably mostly adhere to colour IR photography, I enjoy that a bit more

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              a tall, monochrome photo of a hill sloping up to two trees. The foliage of the trees is bright white, while the sky above is dark. The lawn up there has dark shaded and mildly grey spots

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...a tall, monochrome photo of a hill sloping up to two trees. The foliage of the trees is bright white, while the sky above is dark. The lawn up there has dark shaded and mildly grey spots

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              a monochrome composition of many young trees on a lawn, their foliage is bright white, the lawn bright grey. the shaded areas are dark. The sky above is very dark, except for a sole spot, the moon

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...a monochrome composition of many young trees on a lawn, their foliage is bright white, the lawn bright grey. the shaded areas are dark. The sky above is very dark, except for a sole spot, the moon

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              a wide shot of a building overgrown by plants. the photo is monochrome, the foliage bright white, the building, sky and shade contrasty dark

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...a wide shot of a building overgrown by plants. the photo is monochrome, the foliage bright white, the building, sky and shade contrasty dark

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              a photo up a buildings corner. it is grey against a grey sky, rather flat in profile. ontop of the buildings a few trees reach into the sky, their foliage is bright white

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...a photo up a buildings corner. it is grey against a grey sky, rather flat in profile. ontop of the buildings a few trees reach into the sky, their foliage is bright white

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]lizard appreciator [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @bonzoesc@m.bonzoesc.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Amazon Basics New Glenn Rocket Booster Usable for Men Women Outdoor Explosion Space Lift Heavy Lift Satellite Multifunction

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]dmi 💽 soon --> GPN [they/them (or she/her)] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @domi@donotsta.re

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hey-ho! i have a weird suspicion that in the perspective of 2-3 months i’ll be actively looking for a job (so not YET, but with how the market is looking like, I prefer to announce myself ahead of time)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                are YOU looking for…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • a system administrator (linux, a tad rusty at windows server, learning OpenBSD and NetBSD)?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • a network administrator (touched too many vendors’ tech to list, implemented IP stacks for shits and giggles, helped run an AS)?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • a technical writer?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • a digital archivist?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • someone who knows WAY TOO MUCH about shell scripting?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • (this list is incomplete)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                if so, then please get in touch! CV available upon request. part time / flexible hours preferred, I want enough funds to stay afloat, not to get rich (read: i’m exceptionally cheap) #GetFediHired :boost_ok:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]🖱️computer_glamour💾 [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @computer@glamour.ovh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey Fedi :3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It is my 3rd month of running instance. I wanted to share a few words about how awesome this software is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Few points that make snac icredibly good for my usecase are:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • No database needed - means easy migration for me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • No javascript - not a big fan of JS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • No cookies - so users are not tracked

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • It only stores locally data about users on the local instance it doesnt download stuff from instances it federates with

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Extremely low resource usage


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Basically you compile snac you get a executable program that you can run as a deamon, you just need to point it to data directory in which all data is stored, it puts out HTTP on which web ui is visible, you can proxy it and that's all.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  After 3 month of posting (2 active users and 3 semi active users) my data dir is ~500MB and memory usage is ~200MB
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  it means i can keep running it on my infrastructure without even thinking too much about load

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @grunfink@comam.es thanks for such a awesome piece of software 🩷🩷🩷

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]The Real Grunfink » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @grunfink@comam.es

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You're welcome!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've only used for about half a year, and my instance takes up ~250MB of disk space and ~25MB of memory. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I wish more modern software was like (:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      CC: @grunfink@comam.es

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just for posterity--recently, I started using fedi a bit more, so now the memory usage sits at around 64M.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I've never interacted with so many instances before >~


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]roman » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @hi@romanzolotarev.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          similar experience here. is good ❤️

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]navi [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            navi explodes

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]acct-user/initra-mf[-sleep] [they/them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @me@doasu.dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ... [SENSITIVE CONTENT]/lh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            GIF of Kaguya from the Touhou Project "exploding." Her hair disappears, save for one singular hair comically curled on top of her head. (she survived)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...GIF of Kaguya from the Touhou Project "exploding." Her hair disappears, save for one singular hair comically curled on top of her head. (she survived)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Nanoraptor [She/Her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @NanoRaptor@bitbang.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              An item of curiosity...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              As a kid, did you grow up around guns?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes:193
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No:520
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Just show me the results:14
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Nanoraptor [She/Her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @NanoRaptor@bitbang.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I very much did. Dad was huge on target shooting on a whole bunch of rifles. Nothing pistol - and had a few antiques.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My sis and I would go do homework in the back of the Kingswood when he shot every saturday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I had a go at it a few times - and did ridiculously well - but it didn't click hard with me. Probably 30 something years since I touched one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Also accidentally shot myself twice which might be part of it.

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