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Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
FYI, #StackOverflow is running a "customer satisfaction" survey now. You may tell them how dissatisfied you are with what they're doing. Not that their agents are going to care, or even accurately report what you say.
Saying this as someone who was a regular contributor and a community member many years back, but not anymore.
For those that were asking, vim-classic is now available in #gentoo (~amd64). emerge at will! 🎉
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/app-editors/vim-classic
vim-classic is a fork of vim 8.x by @drew and maintained entirely by and for humans.
p » 🌐
@p@hj.9fs.net
#neverslop #ai #antislop #kitto #comic #fediart #mastoart #art #noai #killcomputers
Meanwhile @libreoffice is out here doing the right thing and taking a strong stance.
Thank you #LibreOffice for taking a #NoAI stance!
https://manualdousuario.net/en/libreoffice-download-record-no-ai/
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Okay, let's get this straight. I have trouble taking compliments for my work.
I was raised in 1990s Poland, you could say it was on the border between two eras. It was a time of newly realized freedom, when people thought that the possibilities were now endless and you had to grab them, you had to compete for them.
You didn't compliment kids for their work, that would spoil them. You could compliment kids for their looks (not me, though, I apparently had "other qualities"). But not for their successes; you instead pointed out where they didn't succeed, or that they could do even better. Because that obviously motivates them to try harder, rather than causes them to stop trying at all, because what's the point. And of course you never complimented your employees, because they never deserved that, they were always the lazy little bastards, undeserving of the job you've given them, only looking how to steal your money. Well, you get my point.
So when I started interacting with people from other cultures, it's been a shock. I've been raised to be an asshole. Fortunately, at least some of them knew this part of "Eastern European" culture and bore with me. And I've got compliments, and real gratification, and my mindset slowly started changing. Honestly, when someone compliments me for my work, I still am uneasy and distrustful (are they being sarcastic?), but I can believe it's honest.
And here comes all the messed up #AI hype, and bootlicking machines. And most of them are mass generating false compliments and pleasantries, and what not. And people are repasting this slop everywhere, and learning from it, and talking like it. And now, whenever I see people being nice, I'm not just uneasy. I keep wondering: is this real, or is it slop? Am I talking to a person, or to a bot? Is this actually being nice, or is it awfully disrespectful?
I'm so tired of this timeline. How do you people stay sane?
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Do we already have a term for people whose ability to reason has seriously deteriorated after they started relying on #AI? If not, I propose slopbrain.
On a totally different topic, am I missing something here or is the maintainer plain wrong? https://github.com/tox-dev/toml-fmt/issues/450#issuecomment-5489314881
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Seriously, you need a stupid #LLM to post a two-sentence comment now?
https://github.com/pnuckowski/aioresponses/pull/292#issuecomment-5482424238
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
So if you think you can "just" solve the destruction of infrastructure done by #AI crawlers, think again.
Konstantin Ryabitsev, Creepy crawlies
https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/creepy-crawlies
"""
Today, git.kernel.org receives about 6M daily requests demanding to see random commits. Of these, 66% are still immediately batted away with the Anubis challenge, but 33% are now solving the math and getting through to the main site — because apparently what we have to offer is worth spending a ton of cycles to calculate the Anubis challenge.
It's impossible to tell with certainty which of these are bots and which are real humans — but chances are, if it's asking for an old commit in a random old fork, it's probably not a real developer trying to do their work.
With a bunch of generous assumptions, legitimate requests are only about 2% of git.kernel.org traffic — everything else are scrapers.
"""
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
#AI bros be like:
Of course I'm opposed to slavery! I wouldn't even have thought of owning a slave! Nobody should be allowed to enslave people!
Why are you picking on the fact that I'm using slave labor from these companies? Why should I sacrifice my convenience when others are going to be using their services anyway! They're still going to keep enslaving people whether i use their services or not. In fact, I'm actually doing a good thing, because I'm using that to make a positive contribution to the world! The problem of slavery really needs to be solved at state level.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that thanks to the developments in slavery soon enough we'd be able to ethically own a small number of local slaves.
I’m taking these to @cebulacamp all money go to:
You can also buy it online here: https://ko-fi.com/s/0850ff2a1d .
You can also bootleg it if you don’t want to give me money, it’s CC0.
You can read it online if you don’t have money, it’s free: https://kamiokan.de/entropysrotoscope/issue1 .
#entropysrotoscope #kamiokande #unix_surrealism #comic #art #noai #fediart #mastoart #cebulacamp
RE: https://donotsta.re/objects/bb14e20a-1b37-45c7-99af-e30c8686a1ce
You can now buy a printed version of Entropy’s Rotoscope #1, available in A4 and A5 format.
Get it either on ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/s/0850ff2a1d or send an email to eigengrau <at> kamiokan <dot> de or just meet me on some event, I will take these to cebula camp and c3 (by c3 I hopefully will also bring issue 2).
Anyway, there are some issues with AI development in Rust:
https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#programming-languages
#faircamp #kiss #smolweb #permacomputing #noAI #c #lisp #clisp #scheme #zig #snac
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
#AI is a zombie virus.
There were so many #FreeSoftware projects that were dead and buried with honors, or at least on life support. It was unfortunate. Sometimes it involved a lot of downstream scaffolding to keep everything working. But at least we had warm memories of them and respect to their authors.
And now slop virus is taking them over, one after another. It's pulling them out of their graves or hospital beds, deformed and mutilated. All the warmth is gone. They have no purpose anymore, beyond feeding.
Sometimes this is done by kids who don't understand the first thing about the project they're defiling, who just want to get credit for something important. However, more often this is done by their original maintainers, who not only don't seem to realize their prime time is over, but who are many years detached from honest software development work.
And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).
Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute." (This was about the copyright policy, so they could have contributed noncontroversially for a long time, yet they never did.)
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Oh, great. So apparently #Microsoft decided to add "#Copilot Pull Request Reviewer" to my "Authorized #GitHub Apps", behind my back.
If you need to check quick: https://github.com/settings/apps/authorizations
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Okay, not using "#AI" isn't hard.
It's not like anybody's asking you to switch to a more expensive vegan diet when you've been eating meat all your life and you have a bunch of health issues that make any diet changes hard.
It's more like deciding not to switch from a normal diet to one primarily based on McDonald's just because everyone else thinks it's cool, and also you're going to save some time on cooking (at the cost of driving there and back all the time).
What we're literally asking you to consider is to keep doing things like you do, without engaging in a pointless, expensive, destructive hype just because "everyone" thinks it's so great and it gives you positive reinforcement. It's "you've managed not to be a dork so far, why'd you suddenly want to pay extra to become one?"
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
If anyone's wondering, #Xfce is a #slop junk now too, and the author is busy writing long excuses for them, with full realization of how harmful they are.
I cannot tell you enough how insulting it is for artists to see any use of AI-generated images.
This technology was made from our work, our labour, stolen from us, violating our consent and copyrights. Somehow without any legal consequences, and without any financial compensation made to us, but making billions in profits exploiting us.
I feel rage each time I see an AI-generated image.
Each time it's a reminder of how much people devalue the hard labour of artists and feel entitled to their work for free.
It's disgusting.
And this "entitled prospective user" attitude. "I was planning on moving my projects to #Codeberg, but now I won't". Oh, how sad that you won't give them the benefit of using their free services (okay, I'm sure you were going to donate).
Reminds me of the "entitled prospective contributor" attitude in #Gentoo. "You never heard from me before, but I don't like this new policy. There are dozens of new contributors with me, just around the corner, and now we won't be able to contribute."
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
I'm trying to keep an open mind.
When someone I used to respect starts using LLMs, I'm thinking: okay, their moral compass is bad, but at least they're putting an effort to review that stuff and they're trying to improve other projects.
When that person writes a pro-AI blog post, complaining that people aren't respecting them anymore, I'm still trying to stay neutral.
But honestly, when said person starts ranting that Codeberg dared ban vibecoded shit, I can't but despise them at this point.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
In the meantime, #GitPython, the package that used to be dead (because the author is busily working on their next great thing) is now slopping out 4 "security" releases a week, as their #slop machine is busily fixing unintended variable expansion in every single URL they call. Unfortunately, they probably don't have enough tokens to fix them all at once, so instead all downstreams have to deal with the churn of endless security release. Or the brain to figure out that maybe they could just disable variable expansion by default and solve them all at once.
It's truly a great time to be a #Python packager.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Let's say you're building a house. Normally this involves hiring a whole bunch of experts (either directly or via some company). You need to pay a fair wage for their labor, and you have to pay for all the material they're going to use. Some of them will be more experienced than others. They will sometimes make a mistake. They will sometimes get sick. The whole construction work will probably take a few months, and may get delayed in the process. Some construction material will be wasted. There's also a risk that over the next years, you'll discover that they screwed something up, and have to fix it. But you'll get a reasonably good house.
Now, a kid comes and tells you you don't have to do this. Instead of paying all these people, you can hire him. He's wearing a suit and sunshades. He never laid a brick in his whole life. But he's got this new great technology that will give you a great house in no time. Of course it will cost you, but not as much as the labor of all these people. You try to learn more, and you discover that the technology actually builds and razes a hundred of house-like things a day, until it gets close enough to something that actually resembles a house. There's a lot of wasted energy and material, but you don't have to worry because it's all subsidized (for the time being). You pay less, you get a house that looks just right on the outside and inside, and that seems to work just right.
Of course, there's a real risk that in a few months you'll discover that something is wrong. You may have to pay a lot for a real expert to figure out how things were done, and how to fix them. Or they may not be able to help you. You may be stuck having to call the suit again, and he'll happily come and fix it for you. And by "fix", I mean he will just raze a whole part of the house and start randomly spitting it out again until he gets something that looks about right, and works about right. Of course, it may not really be a good fit for the rest of the house, but you don't want to pay for replacing the whole thing, do you? It may also introduce a completely new issues that will surface in a few months, but that's just how it is.
Welcome to the glorious world of #AI.
LOOKING FOR A JOB
SKILLS
Frontend mostly, JS mostly, Svelte React Vue Ionic mostly. But often after work day I was developing fullstack apps, with NodeJS as backend. Coding also in raw PHP. And maybe will return to Python. Besides of course GIT, HTTP, Rest, SOLID, Keep It Simple, etc.
COOPERATION
Contract B2B with my one-person company.
SALARY
Fair enough for Mid+ / Senior.
IMPORTANT
I don't use AI while coding. And don't want to!
#job #cooperation #frontend #backend #fullstack #noai #javascript #nodejs #svelte #ionic #php #react #vue
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Let's get this straight: anything created with "AI" is #slop.
It doesn't have to be vibe-coded. It doesn't have to be horrible code. It doesn't matter that you've spent hours perfecting the prompt. It doesn't matter that ten people have spent a week reviewing it in detail.
As long as an "AI" took part in writing it, it's slop. It's an unethical technology, and anything created with it is tainted. It's an inhuman technology, and you're supporting it. You're being disrespectful to your users and contributors. You're putting your own convenience over humanity. You're aiding the worst murderous assholes in the history of humanity. And what's perhaps worst, you quite likely believe that you are making a net positive contribution, that you're helping people, while you're actually disrespecting and harming them.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
The state of #Python ecosystem right now: almost everything is slop. Some projects are complete vibe-coded slop (autobahn, chardet, cryptography). Some projects are disguised slop ("Coding agents shouldn't co-author themselves.")
There is only a handful of human projects left (Flask being one bright example). And they're being killed. They're being killed by the neverending slew of slop pull requests. They're being killed by all their dependencies becoming slop. They're being killed because this whole ecosystem has became such a complete cesspit that you have zero motivation to do anything.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Sometimes I do wonder if the only ethical thing let to do is to delete all your projects, and do your best to have them disappear from public space. Of course, that won't stop people from making your complicit in their acts of planetary destruction entirely, but at least you're trying…
And that's coming from me, a person who considers destroying knowledge and craft an unthinkable crime.