doasu.dev is a Fediverse instance that uses the ActivityPub protocol. In other words, users at this host can communicate with people that use software like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, etc. all around the world.
This server runs the snac software and there is no automatic sign-up process.
Ah, fuck, just realised.
There's this nice "create and control multiple #email aliases" service that you can also host yourself, #SimpleLogin. So far it looks the best: nice set of features, #SSO, I didn't see marks of slop when I looked. I know of two others: #addyio (IIRC PHP, and slop) and #MailX by #IVPN (IIRC golang, but young and e.g. no SSO, and marks of Claude).
Well, SimpleLogin is a property of #Proton
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Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Fun story coming:
#libsodium has a #NoAI policy: https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/blob/master/AI-POLICY.md
The author made a commit using Claude: https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/commit/4f44abfed4c5ee7e1667e3fdf46d9253342cca69
Someone pointed it out in a discussion. The commit got force-pushed over, and the discussion was deleted: https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/discussions/1564.
Funny enough, GitHub still flags the repo.
I suppose at this point libsodium should be assumed to be #slop, with author sweeping the fact under the carpet.
By the way, does anyone have any clue why there's no "archive the page" button when I paste the commit URL to Internet Archive?
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
I need to replace "everyone and their grandmother" (prejudiced, sexist) with "everyone and their chatbot".
“I am proud to say that as part of our new union contract, Current Affairs recently adopted one of the strictest anti-AI policies in the publishing industry. No text that is AI-generated may be published in our magazine. No AI-generated art may be used as a Current Affairs illustration. When you read Current Affairs, you are going to be reading the thoughts of a human, and seeing the results of human artistry.”
“Why We’re Banning AI”
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
If you're about to complain that #Gentoo developers aren't handling some issue you care about fast enough, let me remind you this.
First of all, the vast majority of us (if not all) are volunteers. By "volunteers", I mean that even if we get some compensation for our Gentoo work, it's not enough to make a living. Which implies we need to have another job, which quite often is a full-time software-related job. So what we're talking about is spending long hours working on software for our dayjob, and then working even more on Gentoo. And quite often Gentoo isn't the only #FLOSS project we're working on.
Secondly, we're having to deal with tons of #slop. Now that almost everyone and their grandmother learned to love the slop, they're pouring it all down the funnel on us. We're seeing multiple times more software releases than before, and we have to handle it. It wouldn't be that bad if it was just about release rate; but we're also seeing the other implications of slop: high code churn, verbose useless descriptions, and of course regressions. We're humans and we need to spend our real human effort to deal with all this semi-automated crap.
And thirdly, in case you haven't noticed, this week's been a nightmare for anything #security related. Many of us needed to deal with the fallout at dayjob, and then with the fallout in Gentoo. Even with all the effort we've already been putting into making things secure-by-default and overriding bad upstream decisions (like bundling CA certificates), there's still a lot of problems affecting us, and a lot of work to be done. Especially that we want to future-proof stuff.
So yeah, I'm sorry that your request isn't being handled timely.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Okay, so how does a comment like the following sound like as a way to thank for a #slop - fix?
"""
Thank you for the fix.
Also thanks to all the FLOSS contributors whose work was stripped of attribution and used to train the model that was used to deliver the fix, as well to the low-wage data workers that curated said data.
"""
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
These days the common assumption seems to be that it's fine to spread the plague. After all, if people didn't want to get infected, they would have stayed at home!
So you have to put all these "please don't spread the plague" signs all over the place. Not just in one prominent place, because plague bearers won't bother checking.
And then they'll come anyway and say:
• "Oh, but I thought I'm only forbidden from *admitting* to having the plague."
• "But I have double checked all my spit, and I'm sure it's not contagious."
• "Oh, sorry, let me just disinfect my mouth and spit again."
• "Go on, try to figure out which of my spit carries the plague, and which doesn't."
• "I'm only using the plague to learn, I'm sure it's not contagious."
• "Who cares? The plague is the future!"
This is a post about #AI.
Sigh, pick your poison:
Prometheus:
- https://prometheus.io/docs/guides/contributing/#ai-generated-contributions
- https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/blob/main/AGENTS.md
- https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus-mcp
VictoriaMetrics:
- https://docs.victoriametrics.com/victoriametrics/contributing/#ai-policy
- https://github.com/VictoriaMetrics/skills
- https://github.com/VictoriaMetrics/mcp-vmanomaly
- https://github.com/VictoriaMetrics/mcp-victoriametrics
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
In my private projects and in #Gentoo, I have a strict #NoAI policy. Any LLM-assisted contributions are closed immediately and considered tainted. Use for messaging, bug reporting, etc. also gets you a warning and a request to write yourself. And I dare say I have a heavy ban finger on this; you get one warning only. Well, unless it's clearly an automated submission, in which case you get an immediate ban.
In my dayjob and non-Gentoo work, I also follow a strict policy for my own work. I don't use any of these tools. However, I can't really stop others from doing so, even though I cringe whenever I see someone needing to use an overengineered statistical model to make a trivial change. I can't really reject bug reports, reviews, etc.
The really hard part of it is that I'm starting to have doubts. I truly hate slop in all forms, and what these tools have done to the Internet in general, and to #FreeSoftware in particular. However, I've also gotten some good reports. Like, the kind of tricky logic issues in the specification I am developing that I would have never figured out myself, and that may have never came up during the review otherwise. In other words, someone running an LLM on the specification triggered real bugs that would likely slipped through and required a post-approval specification change when someone noticed that we've introduced incompatible constraints in two different parts of the specification, that would eventually be hit in real use.
All the ethical problems are still there. All the harm is still there. However, I can't really claim that these tools vomit pure useless slop anymore. I feel that it's really time for me to retire.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
#Gentoo has a strict #NoAI policy, so our projects are slop-free. Unfortunately, these days you cannot run an up-to-date system without tons of random slop packages, because everyone insists on using that crap.
Gentoo supports a whole bunch of architectures that probably every other distribution dumped so far. Unfortunately, these days the available software list is shrinking, as everyone insists on adding some random meaningless dependencies on #RustLang (like using uv-build, which is the single most harmful meaningless #Python project ever created).
Gentoo has a strong upstream cooperation policy. However, these days I'm afraid to file issues, because just too often they just trigger more slop. I miss the "good" old days where the worst you could expect is some toxic asshole.
The state of #FreeSoftware is truly depressing. There is little joy in distribution work these days. You're overwhelmed with shit, burned out and end up doing a shitty job. And it's bad for your health.
RE: https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird/117387244706226145
I didn't get around to checking where their infrastructure is, but they're running on top of #stalwart (which uses LLMs in development), will use LLMs in support tasks, and at this point I wasn't interested in looking further.
Last untainted version, forks, and alternatives for your anti-slop, software needz
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
I haven't been attending #FLOSS events much for two main reasons. Firstly, because I found having to pay for attendance discriminating and against the spirit of #FreeSoftware. Secondly, because staying away from home for a few days posed problems. So I've been only attending local events that were open.
However, nowadays I doubt that I'm even going to continue that. I don't feel at home with the wider community anymore. What's for me, between nazi enablers and their apologists?
Perhaps it's time for dedicated #NoAI events.
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Zero days since I regret filing a bug since it meant that some random asshole used life-destroying, nazi-supporting #slop machine to (checks notes) perform a two-line change that was precisely suggested in the bug report and add a test case that was also literally given on the bug. Well, at least they added a wall-of-slop explanation to the changes, so they wouldn't have to copy the one sentence explanation given on the bug.
https://github.com/python/typeshed/issues/16442
https://github.com/python/typeshed/pull/16443
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
FYI, #StackOverflow is running a "customer satisfaction" survey now. You may tell them how dissatisfied you are with what they're doing. Not that their agents are going to care, or even accurately report what you say.
Saying this as someone who was a regular contributor and a community member many years back, but not anymore.
p » 🌐
@p@hj.9fs.net
#neverslop #ai #antislop #kitto #comic #fediart #mastoart #art #noai #killcomputers
Meanwhile @libreoffice is out here doing the right thing and taking a strong stance.
Thank you #LibreOffice for taking a #NoAI stance!
https://manualdousuario.net/en/libreoffice-download-record-no-ai/
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Okay, let's get this straight. I have trouble taking compliments for my work.
I was raised in 1990s Poland, you could say it was on the border between two eras. It was a time of newly realized freedom, when people thought that the possibilities were now endless and you had to grab them, you had to compete for them.
You didn't compliment kids for their work, that would spoil them. You could compliment kids for their looks (not me, though, I apparently had "other qualities"). But not for their successes; you instead pointed out where they didn't succeed, or that they could do even better. Because that obviously motivates them to try harder, rather than causes them to stop trying at all, because what's the point. And of course you never complimented your employees, because they never deserved that, they were always the lazy little bastards, undeserving of the job you've given them, only looking how to steal your money. Well, you get my point.
So when I started interacting with people from other cultures, it's been a shock. I've been raised to be an asshole. Fortunately, at least some of them knew this part of "Eastern European" culture and bore with me. And I've got compliments, and real gratification, and my mindset slowly started changing. Honestly, when someone compliments me for my work, I still am uneasy and distrustful (are they being sarcastic?), but I can believe it's honest.
And here comes all the messed up #AI hype, and bootlicking machines. And most of them are mass generating false compliments and pleasantries, and what not. And people are repasting this slop everywhere, and learning from it, and talking like it. And now, whenever I see people being nice, I'm not just uneasy. I keep wondering: is this real, or is it slop? Am I talking to a person, or to a bot? Is this actually being nice, or is it awfully disrespectful?
I'm so tired of this timeline. How do you people stay sane?
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Do we already have a term for people whose ability to reason has seriously deteriorated after they started relying on #AI? If not, I propose slopbrain.
On a totally different topic, am I missing something here or is the maintainer plain wrong? https://github.com/tox-dev/toml-fmt/issues/450#issuecomment-5489314881
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
Seriously, you need a stupid #LLM to post a two-sentence comment now?
https://github.com/pnuckowski/aioresponses/pull/292#issuecomment-5482424238
Jesus Michał von Gentoo 🏔 (he) » 🌐
@mgorny@social.treehouse.systems
So if you think you can "just" solve the destruction of infrastructure done by #AI crawlers, think again.
Konstantin Ryabitsev, Creepy crawlies
https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/creepy-crawlies
"""
Today, git.kernel.org receives about 6M daily requests demanding to see random commits. Of these, 66% are still immediately batted away with the Anubis challenge, but 33% are now solving the math and getting through to the main site — because apparently what we have to offer is worth spending a ton of cycles to calculate the Anubis challenge.
It's impossible to tell with certainty which of these are bots and which are real humans — but chances are, if it's asking for an old commit in a random old fork, it's probably not a real developer trying to do their work.
With a bunch of generous assumptions, legitimate requests are only about 2% of git.kernel.org traffic — everything else are scrapers.
"""