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I'd add that I've recently unfollowed GOS precisely because almost every single interaction of theirs seems to have been negative. Even if it's correcting misinformation.
Now every time I see a GOS toot I think to myself "great, GOS drama again." I don't need that in my life.
@tastyraspberry@mastodon.online's suggestions were on point. I suggest you take them to heart.
P.S.: thanks for making GOS :)
~happy GOS user
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@me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
What a horribly apathetic thing to say. They wouldnt respond to abuse if they werent being abused.
@HybridStaticAnimate @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
The same here, I only scroll my home feed till the first of 30 posts clarifying again that eOS is bad. This should be considered spam. I don’t even know what is GOS referencing at this point. Is it new eOS attack every time? Is their CEO constantly posting shit about GOS?
@dwaem @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
Its really hard to cram technical refutation into Mastodons comically small default word limit, thats all.
GOS has long-form posts on Twitter. Mastodon should make an easy way to increase the limit.
A lot of projects do, unprovoked, make attacks at GOS. Its not drama or beef, its malice. This is what causes GOS to defend themselves. Its very unfortunate GOS is subjected to this abuse and it should stop.
Well, there are Mastodon forks, like glitch-soc or hometown, which do indeed have a modifiable character limit. And it seems that migrating to one isn't too difficult.
So there's a solution. Either GOS is unaware of it, or they chose not to go this route.
@HybridStaticAnimate @dwaem @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS No need for longer posts on Mastodon, just have a blog post or several, link liberally.
@richlv @dwaem @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
The issue is that puts the corrections and refutations in a place people are explicitly being conditioned to avoid with the misinformation. A mix of both a post on the GOS discussion forum and refutations on Mastodon seem to work the best. But writing up a huge response on the forum takes a lot of time, and many replies have to be context specific.
@HybridStaticAnimate @dwaem @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS No need for a huge post. If there was a smaller one that could be amended over time. A generic overview, that does not have to be context specific down to every last message somewhere.
@richlv @dwaem @me @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
Lying is so much easier than telling the truth. Its also easier to trick someone than to convince them they have been tricked. Large posts are needed because much of what GrapheneOS does is very technical and/or very involved, on the tech side, or an issue needing a ton of context and evidence on the community/social side. There isnt much of a choice other than huge post.
I don’t even know what is GOS referencing at this point.Exactly! It's hard to find the source of the issue amongst the tens (if not hundreds) of toots which all sound like "We are being attacked," "$PROJECT has worse security than GOS," etc.
Perhaps a FAQ site/thread on the forum could go a long way in making it easier to grasp the situation? Instead of writing 10 posts in response, you write one and attach a link to the site/forum.
That way, people could stay informed, and actually useful information would not be lost in the shit storm.
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@me @dwaem @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
The issue is people tend to believe the first thing they see if there is no counter. Making a FAQ entry on the site someone is being conditioned to avoid is... unhelpful. Counters are often context specific and need to be in the same place. Of course GOS would rather none of this happen at all but they are given very little choice in the matter.
Its as extreme as you describe because thats how extreme the situation they are forced to be in is.
@me @dwaem @HybridStaticAnimate @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS Same. This pops up frequently. No clue what’s going on. No links to articles like Signal does or FAQ.
Nothing learned, a bit of time wasted.
@richlv @me @dwaem @tastyraspberry @GrapheneOS
GOS regularly posts evidence with their claims.
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116388159407099477
Heres more info.
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